1. These forums are wholly unmoderated.

2. These forums are a great place for all of us excited and interested about Decihper’s newest product.

3. The new webpage is about to launch.

I stopped reading these forums for the most part a few months back, as it was a few people arguing back and forth. I will probably still play the game, as I love big D and gaming. But I am pretty sure that the new webpage ought to have some moderators on the forums.

So long as people have entirely wasted posts, and squabbling, and my dog is bigger, my opinion is greater bs I won’t be involved…

At one point I had more posts than anyone else out there… hundreds, now I have about 10 posts… because I unsaid all the things I didn’t need to say… perhaps a lot of us could learn from this…

http://www.decipher.com/fightklub/community/for…

I’m pretty sure the new forums will have mods.

I agree. If these forums were moderated like some others I frequently visit then about 80% of the active users would have faced at least one temp ban… ;)

Someone said it well though: You have to keep folks entertained or they’ll leave. So I guess let them. And it has the advantage that you never have to read more than the first 2 pages of any thread.

From the Q&A with Warren:

Q: For these new forums. We’re currently going with “unmoderated”. Will the new ones stay that way, or will we have moderators? If so, will these come from members here, or from Decipher? Is it possible that we could have user Administrators, for purposes like moving topics and creating categories? (the latter of which probably won’t happen often; in all honesty, I’m only heavily familiar with phpBB, and as we aren’t using that, I have no idea what exactly the forums are capable of)

Answer from Warren: They will be un-moderated or moderated by Mentors. One good thing about everyone having an account on the Fight Klub website is that it’s easy to band offensive behavior. As such, it won’t happen much. The community should be very friendly and supportive.

Make of that what you will.

I agree. If these forums were moderated like some others I frequently visit then about 80% of the active users would have faced at least one temp ban… ;)

Hopefully you are not in favor of such moderation. There have been maybe 1 or 2 spats here that I’ve seen (hey wait, I’ve been involved in both!) and almost no offensive language. We’re very peaceful compared to even most moderated boards imho. Besides cleaning up very obvious trolls, I think we can get away with no moderators.

Censoring thoughts only hinders the member’s creativity, thereby not allowing FightKlub to reach its full potential.

I am against this.

PS, how long did it take to delete your “hundreds” of posts? Why would you take the time to do so?

I’m actually for moderators. I think a lot of them… us… will do a very good job. Yes, there will probably be some problems down the line with certain mods (whether being too strict or too loose), but think of them as a sort of police. Police are good (well, we might not think this when we get pulled over :), but there will always be a minority giving everyone else a bad name (letting illegal things go on or being EXTREMELY LEGALISTIC (they have to be legalistic to a certain degree)). But they are the keepers of the peace.

I have been VERY IMPRESSED by the cleanness and respect (generally speaking) that have been displayed by the FMs here. And if it just stayed like this, then I would be against mods. But we’re going to have a slew (very hopefully) of new people, and chances are, I hate to say it, but they probably won’t all be as courteous…

I am wholly against the stifling of ideas, though – however off-the-wall they may be. So, I guess in the end, I think there should be mods that look for two things. 1) offensive language (I think that’s pretty easy to detect) and 2) warranted or unwarranted hateful comments (that might go under the offensive language too)

Oh, one more thing. Heated debates, as long as they don’t burn down the boards or get ugly, are pretty much fine in my book.

Whew, that many qualifiers makes me weary.

Mowerators are nifty, although so far this doesn’t really seem any different than any moderated forums I’ve been on.

I don’t want anyone else to have the power to delete my post, but a vetting system maybe… or maybe just people editing their own posts… it took a long time to delete a few hundred posts, but it was worth it, when i went back and saw how many of my posts were wasted… just like MILLIONS of other posts on here.

I have a question. What good comes of deleting the posts?

You’re removing thoughts and ideas from the boards, and if you’re going to do that, you might as well not share them in the first place.

And we all want everyone to share ideas. Thoughts and ideas can lead to more and better thoughts and ideas. So excessively deleting posts detracts from the forums.

I mean, I remember something you posted once, before the first time you deleted your posts, and I know it’s not on here anymore (I’ve looked). And all I remember was that it was a good idea, or at least one I would have liked to have expanded upon. And I can’t because you removed your posts. Frankly, I don’t think that’s helping.

As far as mods go, we need some “technical” mods more than anything else. Moving topics, editing out obscene posts (not that there are going to be many). I think topic moving will be most used. Maybe locking topics that spiral out of control. (so far, we’ve managed to spiral few out of control, and those have ended up on different tracks moving in a new direction anyways)

I agree with technical moderation. It will be essential that obscene posts be removed at some point, as my Hobbesian attitude toward humanity in general prevents me from seeing anything sunnier when loads and loads of newcomers arrive. As long as the mods don’t spin out of control and start removing posts that just fit under the opposition of what they want, (for example, me deleting a pro-6er’s comments in the friday discussion.) I think we’ll be just fine with moderators.

i agree with the technical mods – and like you said, smokey, none of us want mods to have the power to potentially delete posts they don’t like or disagree with.

How about having a board above mods? like a check on their power (if it does come to the power to delete posts): a couple guys (this would be a lot of work, but it might be workable) review the posts that other mods deleted, checking the reasons WHY the post was deleted or edited by a third party… that way, the mods are accountable and cannot go around deleting for fun.

Maybe like an American checks and balances system? Executive branch can overturn deleted posts unless the Regular Moderators have 2/3rds majority vote to delete?

A combination of Fight Klub and the U.S. government? I love it!

“You may have passed your bill, but I’m going to punch you out in the parking lot when this session gets over!”

HAHA! indeed. Everyone one checks themselves, and we all balance ;)

I’m for moderation. Nothing says that you have to go all 1984 as a mod. But there is something to be said for threads being where you expect them to be, threads having meaningful titles and discussions not being spammed with nonsense.

Every board I’ve been to so far has some sections for serious discussion and one section for chitchat, nonsense and goofing off. This board too but at some point the chitchat flooded over onto the rest.

Well I’m for the idea of mods – being an admin/mod on another forum, it’s essential really. Until you’ve been one, you don’t really know how much they do. The forum I’m on it’s very rare that we delete threads anyway – generally only if they’re stuck in the moderation queue for being picked up as spam. Occasionally we move threads to a more appropriate topic heading e.g. a thread about holiday in Africa from “general” to “travel” or something. We notify the poster of what we have done and why and generally have no problems.

If people are worried about threads getting deleted for no reason – perhaps have it so that members are mods and can’t delete threads/posts, only hide them. The level above is Decipher as admins and they can either unhide or delete said threads as appropriate.

hey look, my avatar finally updated!

So whats this I hear about sillyness getting placed in serious threads?

Everyone here has been quite respectful. This is the first board in which I’ve actually seen full page apologies for something that was ill conceived or downright unnecessary… where else would you see such manners?

Big Brother would just delete them, and ban the user for the infraction, and we’d never see the resolution to the conflict/question at hand.

Keep them unmoderated, everyone will remain respectful, everyone knows that their posts can still be reported etc.

I think that technical mods are needed and thats it. With the size of these forums the moderation team would no have to be that big.

@slaxer: I’m still seeing the weird groin/DO thing. What do I have to do to change it?

Really? He’s had his guy by the beach for a few days now (visible to me at least).

@Marth: You need to clear your cache. The avatars get retained to save on load times so if it changes it doesn’t refresh until the cache is refreshed. If you’re using IE just delete your temporary internet files, no idea for other browsers.

Under Firefox, I’m pretty sure clearing private data would do it. (of course, FF also forgets passwords you’ve saved when you do this, so be forewarned if you’ve never done that before)

For Chrome, click the wrench icon, and then Clear Browsing Data.

If you aren’t using one of those three… get one of those three. :D

:O AC is diverting from the subject!!

Ok here’s my problem with this whole “etiquette” thing. Conversations flow. It’s not like we’re writing legal documents or thesis papers.

I agree. Any forum that isn’t run my Nazis (well they would probably go off topic too, like how to clean your gun more efficiently, or the best way to torture a victim, etc) is going to naturally go off topic, that’s just how humans are.